RE: [E-voting] Re: Legal/Constitutional Opinions on eVoting (was: Electronic Voting in the Dáil Yesterday)
keith at keith.gs
Wed Dec 7 23:15:52 GMT 2005
Only the first of those would be allowed. The others are all either related
to persons who shouldnt be named in the House or are opinion/argument.
From: Ciaran Quinn [mailto:election at polarbears.com]
Sent: 07 December 2005 22:51
To: Keith Martin; e-voting at lists.stdlib.net
Subject: Re: [E-voting] Re: Legal/Constitutional Opinions on eVoting (was:
Electronic Voting in the Dáil Yesterday)
Keith Martin wrote:
>Unfortunately the Ceann Comhairle has disallowed the question. He says
>Ministers aren't responsible for legal advice sought or given and
>therefore can't be asked questions about it (including whether they
>sought or were given legal advice, apparently).
>I'm looking at some other ways of asking the same question.
Some possible questions:-
Can the Minister list the amounts paid to legal firms or consultancies
or for legal services in the period 2002 to 2005? [ I'm not sure what
periods to specify here]
Can the Minister list those employees of the Dept. of the Environment
who worked on the Electronic Voting system in any capacity (excluding
those directly employed by the Franchise section) ?
In view of recent attempts by a Government minister to involve civil
servants in party affairs, does the Minister accept that the voting
process must be subject to monitoring by opposition parties and groups?
Can the Minister explain why the Dept. of the Environment released full
ballot files after the 2002 election but had decided not to release full
ballot files had electronic voting been used in the elections in 2004
and will the Minister make a statement on the ability of voters to
incorporate a digital signature into their vote when electronic voting
is used with PR-STV?
Does the Minister accept that the monitoring of the Nedap/Powervote
system is similar to the monitoring of the CIA planes landing in
Shannon, in that neither the ordinary Irish citizen nor the opposition
parties can tell what is happening inside the machines or planes?
Does the Minister accept that the decision to restore an annual military
parade in Dublin is negated by the involvement of a British defence
company, Qinetiq, in the testing of the electronic voting system, and
can the Minister provide an assurance that if the British defence
company Qinetiq, discover a method of manipulating the system to the
detriment of a specific party (for example, Sinn Féin), that such
information will be given to the Dept. of the Environment and not to the
British Intelligence services?
>Quoting Keith Martin <keith at keith.gs>:
>>I've just had the following question submitted:
>>To ask the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local
>>Has a legal opinion been sought in relation to the conduct of
>>elections or referendums where an electronic voting system is used;
>>where such opinion might be viewed; and if he will make a statement on
>>Ruairi Quinn TD (Labour Party)
>>For written reply
>>Submitted 1st December 2005
>>The wording might seem a bit wierd, but there's a particular way to
>>ask parliamentary questions in order to get answers!
>>I unfortunately missed this morning's deadline, but it'll get answered on
>>Tuesday 13th December.
>>I'm also told that in one of Labour's submissions to the CEV, it was
>>argued that eVoting was unconstitutional. It wasn't in the main
>>"Labour Party" one, but was
>>in one of the ones submitted by Labour Party representatives or members -
>>can't remember which!
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