[E-voting] Why we can't decide on a VVAT method?

Catherine Ansbro cansbro at eircom.net
Wed Jan 19 22:19:41 GMT 2005


Perhaps we should suggest that this is what the Dept. should do.  We 
could suggest that individuals such as Joe McCarthy, Margaret, etc. 
could be part of the team or serve as external consultants.

Catherine

Fergal Daly wrote:

>While I agree that to do what you've listed below is serious hard work (and
>I think way beyond the scope of ICTE), I still think it's quite practical to
>describe some existing VVAT solutions in enough detail to be a useful basis
>for our campaign and that's all we need. As we've seen, there is a certain
>level of commonly accepted reliability for well known equipment. So we don't
>need to prove that for example a ballot printer has a mean time to failure
>of X days, we can just point to Lotto machines etc.
>
>So while the below is interesting and hopefully will be done by someone
>someday, all we really need is for 1 or 2 people to describe their favourite
>VVAT in sufficient detail and have it criticised on the list, then we can
>present that as an acceptable option,
>
>F
>
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>On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 09:40:58PM +0000, Aidan Delaney wrote:
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>
>>Hey all,
>>	Given that everyone here has an interest in democracy, some are voting
>>geeks, some are techno-literati and some are Margret McGaley, why can't
>>we come up with a universally accepted manner of implementing VVAT for
>>DRE?
>>	Simply, it's a _very_ complex problem.  We've got to go back to the
>>very start
>>	* research and devise all reasonable VVAT methods,
>>	* formally specify the methods,
>>	* research the effectiveness of each varient,
>>	* verify the accuracy of each varient.
>>We deride the government for not having done this and instead choosing a
>>Commercial Off-The Shelf (COTS) system that is not up to the task.
>>	So an observation; the above list will take about two years of work for
>>a small, dedicated research team (approx three members).  And some
>>questions:  Do we have the resources for such a project (knowing that
>>Mags herself is currently working on it)?  Where can we get the
>>resources for said project?  Is there any point in suggesting a solution
>>without knowing the above data?
>>	This is a tricky problem.  I don't think we can "make up" possible
>>solutions without extensive research.
>>    
>>
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