[E-voting] Re: terrorism and electronic elections

Craig Burton caburt at alphalink.com.au
Thu Jul 14 05:40:19 IST 2005

Anonymity and secrecy were not introduced at the same time in Australia 
either.  For many years after 1856, the secret ballot still carried a 
serial number as organisers were worried about fraud.  I'm not sure when 
it was changed, but I believe it was the late nineteenth century.
The UK implemented the secret ballot but have not introduced anonymity.  
As far as I know the UK is the only place in the world where this is the 
Since Hoon is calling for compulsory voting at the moment it seems 
anything is possible.  It seems reasonable to now introduce anonymity.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [E-voting] Re: terrorism and electronic elections
Date: 	Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:51:09 +0200
From: 	David GLAUDE <dglaude at poureva.be>
Organization: 	PourEVA
To: 	Michael McMahon <michael at hexmedia.com>
CC: 	e-voting at lists.stdlib.net, paul.holden at icsmember.ie
References: 	<200507121100.j6CB0HHO005675 at monty.netsource.ie> 
<1121169679.42d3b10f47af3 at webmail.edo.ie> <42D3CAAD.5020109 at hexmedia.com>

I am totally against "pre-printed serial numbers on the back".

Obvious all paper ballot must be identical with no way to distinguish 
one from another for secrecy reason... this is obvious to me but seems 
to be non obvious in UK(?) where such number are stamped on the paper 
ballot and next to the name of the voter.


Michael McMahon wrote:
> paul.holden at icsmember.ie wrote:

> The real printed ballots would have to
> have some authenticating information like printer marks
> equivalent to the old stamp, and pre-printed serial numbers on
> the back. In that situation, fake ballots would just be removed
> without affecting the audit. However, if a ballot paper turns
> up that looks authentic, but has the wrong data on it, then
> that is evidence of a serious problem.

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