[E-voting] Re: Green TD calls for pilot e-voting project for
cansbro at eircom.net
Mon Jun 20 01:08:02 IST 2005
You have really nailed it! You have a great grasp of Irish politics and
of what motivates voters, and of how national policy decisions are
really made. I loved your description.
This is one reason why I feel I'm not "cut out" for politics--because
it's actually national policy that I'm really interested in, but this
has zero relationship to what people vote for, even at national
elections. Policies seem irrelevant to voters, unless they perceive it
to be "local."
I suppose there are times when committees and/or discussions between
Seanad/Dail play a significant role in shaping legislation--but mostly
it seems like a pretty big mess with not much connection to what
legislation is most urgently needed by the public. And there's
virtually no public consultation. The e-voting issue forced some degree
of consultation to take place but we'll have to really stay involved to
make sure this continues.
Aengus Lawlor wrote:
>On Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:30 AM [GMT+1=CET],
>Fergus O'Rourke <sitecom at tinet.ie> wrote:
>>The voters are the judges of what "the primary reason" for election
>>is. IME as a canvasser, attending in the Chamber or even voting at
>>divisions was not high up the list of voters' concerns.
>The voters are smart enough to understand that, with a totally rigid whip
>system, voting in divisions is nothing more than play-acting. They vote on
>local issues, because they understand that it doesn't matter what the voters
>on the ground actually want their representatives to do on national issues,
>thir TDs will be voting along party lines every single time. (Which usually
>means that Berties kitchen cabinet will decide on a policy, the FF and PD
>poodles will vote for it whether or not it's a good idea, and then the FG
>and Labour party poodles will vote against it, whether it's a good idea or
>>From time to time, something like e-voting will come along that gets all
>party support (because it's "modern") until there's some sort of fuss made,
>at which point one side will see a political advantage in changing their
>And then TDs complain that the newspapers don't cover the day-to-day
>business of "politics", and only cover scandals and controversies.
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