[E-voting] public transportation fares reduced on voting day
dglaude at poureva.be
Wed Sep 28 00:26:46 IST 2005
Yes we do an almost random thing in Belgium.
Each "voting place president" receave a list of citizen in the area
filtered/sorted by some criteria:
* Age above 30 (so all your college friend start to be selected at the
same time as you)
* Educated (with a priority system based on school level and job I
believe). It might be something like: teacher, civil servant, ... will
be more likely to be on the list.
Practicaly a lot a citizen seems to try to avoid doing the job (maybe
with an increase in the salary it would help a bit) even if it is
mandatory and you can get high fine if you avoid for no good reason. So
the president do select twice more as needed and can take the first
elector to reach it's number of poll worker (that's why many try to
avoid comming too early at the polling place! so you get queueing
later!!!). Sometime you wake up early to find out that you were a
backup... sometime the citizen present do choose who can go home and who
is happy to stay and work.
(did I mention you frequently get a sandwich and something to drink?)
Where the "random" fail is that the president can choose all his friends
to do the job with him... where it could be political friends outside
the establish list. This can take place in small village but less likely
Also once you accepted and did the job well... you are likely to be
re-selected. The reason is that the president know he can count on you
and will not have to seek last minute backup. So you might end up every
election year to be selected.
With paper counting it is rather important to have at least a few
skilled poll worker that know the best way to count/sort/avoide fraud!!
There is a law proposal to have a positive list of peaple that want to
do it... I think there is another proposition where candidate of local
election (there are many list in each location with only a small
percentage really elected) have to be selected first to show to the
citizen that those "politician" do the job too... but I believe those
option (like the professionnal returning officer) are too dangerous and
any "random" think is better.
Craig Burton wrote:
> Like jury duty someone also should vet who is selected. I see some risk
> in picking people who oppose the process or who are too disinterested.
> Even the simple worker role requires some skill and patience and ability
> to deal with the public.
> OTOH random selection of the staff improves the process as it becomes
> harder for any number of partisan actors to enlist for a specific
> polling station.
> Here people apply to do the poll station work and are paid. I believe
> they are vetted as well.
> Michael McMahon wrote:
>> vote at electronic-vote.org wrote:
>>> We still have the legal right to be absent from work if we are
>>> choosen as polling stations workers. Infact local administrations
>>> randomly choose polling workers among all voting citizen, and such
>>> work is compulsory and it is paid by the State (120 euro for each
>>> simple worker and about 200 for each President).
>> Choosing election workers from the electorate at random seems like an
>> interesting idea, similar to jury-service I guess (but better
>> It also seems like a good way to engage people with the process.
>> I think David G. said that workers are chosen randomly in Belgium also.
>> I don't know how it is done in Ireland (or anywhere else for that
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