[E-voting] RE: Epic leak of commission report

Catherine Ansbro cansbro at eircom.net
Mon Jul 3 14:49:58 IST 2006

I agree with both Colm & Fergal.

Stick to the facts of what ICTE pointed out and when (and how far back 
it goes--prior to ICTE--in some cases).

I also agree about /not/ framing this as a political issue.  Rather, 
it's about how public input was ignored--including input from relevant 
professionals--and now all Irish taxpayers suffer as a result.  It's a 
cautionary tale about public consultation and this could be applied to 
many areas of governance.  Why did top civil servants ignore input from 
relevant IT professionals and stakeholders (voters)?  Or were there 
other influences on these civil servants of which we need to become 
aware?  (Is this an issue of possible corruption or paybacks?  
Arrogance?  Stubbornness?  Stupidity?  Pressure coming from somewhere 
else to make a certain decision or put one's job at risk?)

We could reinforce the concept of the need for public + all-party 
collaboration on issues relating to elections/democracy.

I don't think we should target any particular individual or party 
because that's not the point.  It's the principle that needs to get 
across--that it is only common sense to consider public input when 
developing policy, particularly when that policy has to do with the 
process of voting on which our Irish democratic republic depends.

We could also talk about the need for committee members to pay attention 
to the evidence and opinions that are presented to them.  Having input 
is of no benefit if it is ignored.  What mechanisms might prevent a 


Fergal Daly wrote:

> On 03/07/06, Colm MacCarthaigh <colm at stdlib.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 10:38:20PM +0100, Shane Hogan wrote:
>> > I agree, and I'll be doing my best to make this happen in Labour, 
>> but let's
>> > not leave it to us politicos. ICTE & ICTE members should really be 
>> hammering
>> > home this issue too, and indeed it may get more respect coming from an
>> > independent source.
>> It's not our point to make in my opinion. It's a political matter. We
>> long ago chose to stick to the technical issues and the truth of those
>> matters. ICTE remains a single-issue body, and I don't see how that
>> issue is served by trying to harm the government politically. If the
>> Government choses to abandon the system, we should support that.
>> Even now, I think it would be a huge mistake to tarnish this principle.
> I don't think "I told you so" is a political point even when it's
> accompanied by details of when we told you and how you ignored us and
> went ahead anyway (if phrased correctly),
> F
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