[E-voting] E-voting/e-counting chaos in scotland (fwd)
cansbro at eircom.net
Wed May 16 10:22:19 IST 2007
From the description of the layout-related counting problems (people
using numbers instead of X and vice-versa), perhaps many of these would
not have been spoiled if they had been counted by hand right from the
start. E.g., an X instead of a 1 would have been clear at least for a
first-preference vote--I don't know what the Scottish rules are
regarding counting votes where the intent was clear. Same if someone
had used a 1 instead of an X.
Have there been no more recent stories describing the nature of the
spoiled ballots? Is anyone in the UK looking into this?
Dr J Pelan wrote:
> I dropped the CC off this by accident.
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:15:38 +0100 (BST)
> From: Dr J Pelan <johnp at gatsby.ucl.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [E-voting] E-voting/e-counting chaos in scotland
> On Tue, 15 May 2007, Louise Ferguson wrote:
>> Check the figures on spoiled ballots, undervoting, etc etc., inc. for
>> the different years concerned. All the data *that was collected*
>> (though they admitted at the time that they had failed to collect other
>> important data) is publicly available on their website, and has been
>> since 2004. Compare with data coming out of Scotland and elsewhere, as
>> well as other elections.
> How do you attribute all the problems to the e-counting ? There was an
> issue with the barcodes but the bulk of the issues were not related to
> e-counting per se. In particular, the spoilt ballots were due to voter
>> No, but the quotes from people like Jon Snow (well-known newscaster),
>> there and in other news media (e.g. The Guardian), were genuine.
> >From memory, the problems that were cited by Jon Snow were do to with the
> postal votes and the ballot lay-out and not e-counting.
> John P.
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