[E-voting] Re: meeting with John Gormely

Catherine Ansbro cansbro at eircom.net
Fri Oct 12 00:17:16 IST 2007

Hi Paul,

You have a personal invitation to visit me anytime.  It'd be great to =

meet up.  You've been doing Trojan work stateside.

Catherine Ansbro

Paul Lehto wrote:
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> I apologize for omitting this link, and if there's any information =

> about Ireland that would be interesting to know, please send it my way. =

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> This is the link i referenced previously but forgot to include in the =

> original email.  =

> http://www.thecalifornian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20070929/OPINI=
ON/709290323 =

> <http://www.thecalifornian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=3D/20070929/OPIN=
ION/709290323>  =

>  =

> Paul
>  =

> PS  I'd like to say, though it wouldn't really be true that my honest =

> motive for this email was undisclosed previously, that I'm just =

> looking for an excuse to visit Ireland again, having been there in =

> 1992 during a summer trip to europe before entering law school. :)
>  =

>  =

> On 10/11/07, *Paul Lehto* <lehtolawyer at gmail.com =

> <mailto:lehtolawyer at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     I would like to introduce myself since I just signed onto the list
>     and hopefully being fromthe USA it's not a list violation for me
>     to be on this list.
>      =

>     I'm an election law attorney and national leader in the effort
>     against computerized secret vote counting in the USA.  I got
>     active in 2004 after observing a phantom vote being added to the
>     totals from my polling place, where I was an attorney observer. =

>     That led to a co-authored scientific study with Dr. Jeffrey
>     Hoffman that contains smoking gun evidence of electronic
>     irregularities. See
>     www.votersunite.org/info/SnohomishElectionFraudInvestigation.pdf
>     <http://www.votersunite.org/info/SnohomishElectionFraudInvestigation.=
pdf> =

>     One such smoking gun (a rarity when the vote counting evidence is
>     so secret) is that the 19 machines specifically pulled out of
>     service because they were observed to malfunction by flipping
>     votes and/or freezing up had (in a very Democratic county and in
>     the closest governor's race in US history) more than 50% more
>     votes for the Republican than for the Democratic candidate.  =

>     There are some other astonishing facts for the science-minded at
>     least in the study, though few take the time to read these kinds
>     of things it is worth the effort in many cases.
>      =

>     The study led to a lawsuit, where I specifically chose to attack
>     the legality of the contract to purchase the machines as being
>     "ultra vires" or beyond the power of the government to agree to,
>     for twelve different constitutional and public policy reasons. =

>     See www.votersunite.org/info/lehtolawsuit.asp
>     <http://www.votersunite.org/info/lehtolawsuit.asp>    WIthin 9
>     months of the lawsuit being filed, the county commission voted to
>     get rid of the touch screen DREs (Direct Recording Electronic)
>     machines.  That was in January 2006.  =

>      =

>     My co-plaintiff was Jack Wells, who was descended from both a
>     REvolutionary War soldier as well as one of the original state
>     senators of Washington state.  I didn't know Jack, but he
>     responded to the call, just as he did in the Aleutian Islands in
>     WWII.   Jack died on October 1, 2007 after a sudden onset of lung
>     cancer, he was a lifelong non-smoker.  ALso a lifelong hero, being
>     termed a "legendary" teacher for 26 years and continuing after
>     retirement in the lives of his students.
>      =

>     The lawsuit was ultimately dismissed as moot by the Court of
>     appeals, on account that we had won, basically, in that the
>     machines were gone.  This was incorrect in that we also asked for
>     a $5 million refund, but that is the end-game of the system, in
>     this particular county. =

>      =

>     This past weekend, we had a breakthrough with 226 organizations at
>     the Latino Congreso, the national public policy and politics board
>     for the Latino community.  They passed a very strong resolution
>     that I wrote that anchors our movement in inalienable rights.  I'm
>     uncertain of the precise translation of these concepts to Irish
>     law since the primary US referent is the Declaration of
>     Independence, but since they emanate from John Locke the english
>     philosopher and others perhaps that makes them unpopular in
>     Ireland. :)    The resolution is found at but I've
>     http://latinocongreso.org/resolutions07approved.php?id=3D103  also
>     included the key excerpts below to show what we are demanding.
>      =

>     It seems to me that the one extraordinary, boundary and
>     paradigm-shifting fact about voting is that in any democracy or
>     republic, voters are exercising an act of sovereignty when voting,
>     similar to an act of the "king can do no wrong", because in all
>     democracies and republics it's recognized that all legitimate
>     power comes only from the people.   As such, at the unique time of
>     voting we have a different "hat" on completely, not the hat of the
>     mere citizen, and it is not possible, even in theory, to hide the
>     vote counting from the sovereign rulers/masters of the society --
>     the voters.  If someone wishes to deny this principle, they take
>     themselves outside of the realm of republics and democracies, and
>     do so at their political peril, so I think it's quite effective to
>     frame things this way and show that the position of safety is to
>     affirm the power of the people and the position of maximum danger
>     is to deny it.  Because, if it is denied, you can call our
>     societies lots of things (*^&*&%$&*) but you just can't call them
>     republics, and you can't call them democracies.  the politicians
>     are invited to choose their poison, if poison a transparent voting
>     system BE. =

>      =

>     I'll also forward a link to a brief op-ed column that i wrote,
>     it's only 600 words but is the briefest summary I can think of as
>     to where I'm at and to some extent by extension where the US
>     movement is at.
>      =

>     I am also co-founder of Psephos (the greek work for pebble, the
>     original ballot) in the San Diego area of California, but i do not
>     live there, rather in Michigan right now, close to the shore of
>     the world's largest freshwater lake, Lake Superior (though not in
>     volume of water, only in surface area, see Lake Baikal)  . =

>     www.psephos-us.org <http://www.psephos-us.org/>
>      =

>     Having presumed to lecture by introduction just a bit, it is
>     nevertheless my keenest desire to find out more about Ireland's
>     movement and situation, and to see if we may be able to work
>     together or at least trade notes and experiences.   If anyone, for
>     example, would like to be on my ONE WAY listserv for my writings
>     (replies are on other lists) I would be happy to add your email
>     address to my demandingdemocracy group at googlegroups.com
>     <http://googlegroups.com/>
>      =

>     Thank you and I  hope to hear from some like minded folks in
>     Ireland as to what I might learn from your experiences, and
>     perhaps vice versa
>      =

>     Regards
>     Paul Lehto
>     Attorney at Law
>     425-422-2114
>      =

>     *1.    *THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that *_the 206 organizations
>     represented by delegates of the 2007 National Latino Congreso
>     support:   _*
>      =

>     (a)voting systems where _every part of the system_ including early
>     voting, absentee voting, election day voting, and post election
>     day vote counting is *observable by the public and creates
>     evidence accessible to and understandable by the public, and
>     recognize this is necessary to preserve unalienable rights of
>     self-government, such as the right to alter the government at
>     will; *and
>     (b)condemn those so-called "public servants" who cooperate with
>     corporations to deny information on vote counts to the public,
>     violating their loyalty to the public, and preserving corporate
>     rights instead of rights of people; and
>     (c)    _require _all voting systems to be _compatible with the
>     rights of self-government,_ or else they are _unacceptable
>     regardless of cost savings or convenience;_ and
>     (d)Favors: =

>                                                                          =

>     i.      completely open, honest, and public vote counts, with
>     immediate access to all information about counts; and
>                                                                          =

>     ii.      absolutely secure chains of custody from the time ballots
>     are cast through the time for recounts; and
>                                                                          =

>     iii.      guarantees of speedy, effective investigations and
>     remedies for any reported irregularities, just as our armed forces
>     treat all potential threats seriously; and
>      =

>     2.        FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED *these rights are mandatory and
>     non-negotiable,* and that it's the government's primary purpose to
>     guarantee these birthrights, but election secrecy render
>     government accountability to the people impossible; and
>     */3.       /*FURTHER BE IT RESOLVED that the 206 organizations
>     represented by delegates of the 2007 National Latino Congreso
>     *_demand full recognition of all voting rights of all people,
>     _*and voting systems that reflect the */_best checks and balances
>     ever developed for elections: fully observable, transparent
>     elections._/ *
> -- =

> Paul R Lehto, Juris Doctor
> lehtolawyer at gmail.com <mailto:lehtolawyer at gmail.com>
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