[E-voting] FreeAndFair post from patrick at kobly.com requires approval

Margaret McGaley mmcgaley at gmail.com
Mon Apr 8 21:35:08 IST 2013


I'd appreciate it if you could remove the ICTE mailing list from future
mails, I set up the new list so we wouldn't be spamming anyone :)

Margaret


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:28 PM, <freeandfair-owner at lists.timui.org> wrote:

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> From: "Patrick Kobly" <patrick at kobly.com>
> To: "Catherine Ansbro" <cansbro at eircom.net>, "michael at hexmedia.com" <
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> Cc: "freeandfair at lists.timui.org" <freeandfair at lists.timui.org>, "
> e-voting at lists.stdlib.net" <e-voting at lists.stdlib.net>
> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:28:30 -0600
> Subject: RE: [E-voting] Open source voting system
> -----Original message-----
> From:   michael at hexmedia.com
> Sent:   Mon 08-04-2013 13:04
> Subject:        Re: [E-voting] Open source voting system
> To:     Catherine Ansbro <cansbro at eircom.net>;
> CC:     e-voting at lists.stdlib.net; freeandfair at lists.timui.org;
> > On 2013-04-08 17:38, Catherine Ansbro wrote:
> > > 4) It is not enough that an independent voter can verify their own
> > > vote. All kinds of shenanigans may have been done, with some of the
> > > other votes that I cannot verify--e.g., adding in extra votes in the
> > > name of voters who are known not to have voted at recent elections.
> > >
> >
> > True, but no system can completely overcome that problem. There's
> > nothing to stop
> > administrators stuffing paper ballots belonging to voters who didn't
> > turn up.
>
> FWIW, in the paper election process used in Canada:
>
> - printed ballot blanks issued to elections officials are counted prior to
> the opening of the polls
> - ballot boxes are demonstrated to be empty and are sealed immediately
> prior to the opening of the polls
> - ballot boxes are kept in plain sight while the polls are open
> - the process whereby electors are authenticated is open and observable
> - electors who have voted are marked in a poll-book as having voted
> - the ballot issued to an elector has a detachable counterfoil which is
> serial numbered and whose serial number can be observed without observing
> the markings on the folded ballot
> - when the ballot is returned to be deposited in the box (and immediately
> before it is placed in the box), it is confirmed that the serial matches
> the ballot that was issued and the counterfoil is removed
> - at the close of polls, the ballot box is opened and counted in precinct
> - number of ballot blanks issued must balance against ballots in the box +
> remaining unused ballots + spoiled ballots returned.  Ballots in the box
> must balance against electors marked in the poll-book as having voted.
> - ballots and paperwork are sealed in envelopes countersigned by
> observers, which are in turn sealed in ballot boxes, countersigned by
> observers
>
> All of these steps are conducted in view of:
> - at least two nominally impartial elections officials
> - representatives of the candidates in the race(s) being contested
> (having, as a result, diametrically opposed interests with respect to the
> outcome of the election)
>
>
> PK
> >
> > If anyone is interested, I'll post a copy of the paper I wrote
> > somewhere
> > (if I can find it).
> >
> > Michael.
> >
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